Giuliani Goes Full Orwell: ‘Truth Is Not Truth’

Rudy Giuliani

Truth isn't truth. The seismic shock of the remark was so forceful it had Chuck Todd, host of NBC's Meet the Press, struggling to contain his giggling.

Todd appeared flummoxed by the comment, responding: "This is going to become a bad meme".

Trump's critics often suggest he might have committed obstruction of justice by firing FBI Director James Comey amid a probe into the president's election campaign allegedly colluding with Russian Federation in 2016 election interference.

"When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's gonna tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth", Giuliani said.

"Truth is a truth, Mr. Mayor", Todd reiterated. "You're in a place where you know your client is in a lot of trouble because we know there is a truth and when two witnesses tell different stories in an investigation, the job is to look at evidence that corroborates one version or the other".

The rationale used by Trump and now by Giuliani contradicts a statement the president helped craft in 2017, which said the meeting with lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya had been arranged to discuss US policies for adopting Russian children.

"If this is their case for collusion, good luck Mueller", Giuliani said of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is leading a probe into Russian interference in the USA election.

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Giuliani's statement is reminiscent of a comment from another Trump aide previous year about "alternative facts".

Giuliani also asserted that, if Mueller's obstruction probe ultimately came down to Trump's word against fired FBI Director James Comey's, "truth isn't truth".

The president denies any collusion, and has repeatedly called the Mueller probe "a witch hunt".

Mueller is also investigating whether Trump committed the crime of obstructing justice by taking steps to deliberately impede the investigation, as The New York Times and other outlets have reported. The Times published the story Saturday, drawing an angry response from the president on Twitter.

Truth isn't truth!" Giuliani said, adding: "Donald Trump says I didn't talk about Flynn with Comey.

President Trump slams Russian Federation probe, launches tweetstorm against a NY Times story on White House Counsel's Mueller interviews; Ellison Barber has more. "If someone said, I have information about your opponent, you would take that meeting". "Now, don't tell me that we're delaying this if they are spending a week and a half getting back to us". "The president is at the center of everything that he's investigating, and he hasn't testified or given an interview yet at all".

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